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Old 18-06-2005, 18:43   #141
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I know this has been mentioned somewhere, maybe not in this thread but somewhere else, but I heard that brutal mauling's purpose was to prevent pre-searing characters from having a bear pet.

But then as was stated, if you get a bear as a pet, then brutal mauling simply becomes asthetic.

Sorry if everyone already knew that....I searched this thread, but it didn't seem as if this was pointed out yet...
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Old 18-06-2005, 20:49   #142
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Fern Lizard – I believe this can be found outside Druids Overlook or Quarrell Falls
I've just got to Druid's Overlook and have searched Sage Lands (just outside Druid's Overlook) for a fern lizard and all I can find are warthogs :(

Has anyone else spotted fern lizards here? I might head over to Quarrel Falls in a bit and search there, failing that I'll be settling for bacon.
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Old 18-06-2005, 21:36   #143
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lol i'll be on the lookout.I'll tell u if i see one.
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Old 19-06-2005, 03:36   #144
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From what I've seen, fern lizards are found in pre-searing, and they appear to be pre-searing versions for dune lixards (as are striders to moa birds). They may or may not be tameable (considering how moss spiders aren't). They are in the northlands in three areas, according to Prima's guide.
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Old 19-06-2005, 11:53   #145
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Smile yay~

Hi, everybody. I just wanted to say how awesome this thread is. I've always wondered what the differences between the different animals were (since the official guide just skims over the topic...). It's kind of disappointing to see that most of the animals share the same stats; I was hoping for more variety (hopefully, a patch in the future will deal with that).

Also, I was thinking that raising a pet from a low level rather than catching one at a higher level would result in better stats...but I guess I'm mistaken on that. ^_^;

One of the things I noticed was that my wolf increased in size when it reached a certain level (lvl 10-13?). I didn't notice at first until I grouped with somebody and saw that their wolf was tiny compared to mine. Does that happen with all the other pets or just wolves? (At first, I thought it was because I had a regular wolf whereas the other person had a snow wolf.)

Oh, and isn't Axem Red one of the characters from the Axem Rangers in Mario RPG? One of my favorite games. ^_~

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Old 19-06-2005, 17:11   #146
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All pet's grow larger as their level increases it's a nice feature thats been put in the game. Specially when my bears near enough the same size as my female ranger :p
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Old 19-06-2005, 20:05   #147
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At level 20 your pet is truly epic in proportions. Wolves and bears at their shoulders are almost as tall as your ranger is (most people prefer small rangers for some reason), while the cats are well above waist level. Lizards are also pretty big, they're so long they'd likely be longer than the tallest character laid flat beside them and they almost reach one's waist. Warthogs I've yet to see reach 20, but I suspect they'd be over waist height and rather large. I haven't seen anyone with a moa bird as a pet. >.>;

Personally while the size increase is great I wish the model would change slightly to reflect increased strength, like more defined muscles or a sleeker profile. Wolves in particular have really disproportionate legs. Or maybe it's just me.
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Old 21-06-2005, 00:56   #148
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My apologies then Dragon, I wasn't aware it was your work. Likely then someone took that and pasted it to me taking out the mentions of credit. Well, it's certainly very detailed, and I'd very much encourage you to work closely with the rest of these guys to verify and map out as much of the info as possible then ask if you would mind if I post it on the site.

Again, sorry about the confusion Dragon, I wasn't aware it was "stolen" work.

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Originally Posted by Dragon Incarnate
HOLY CRAP!!! That's my post!! I wrote that based on the information found here and other forums, except I actually say that I did and give credit to GammaRay:



It was written into my guild forum on Jun 10 2005, 04:47 PM & the word document I wrote it in was created Jun 10 2005 2:24 PM - compare this with your email and you'll see who wrote it first.

Here are the links to where I've posted it:

Links removed, no linking to competative sites. Also there was no point to that last one, same thing happened, I see this again and its a temp Ban Dragon, you've been warned twice now. Zero
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Can't believe they say that not only did they write it, but that they did the testing!

In fact here's the latest update for it:

Ultimate Pet Guide - V1.1

A good deal of information was gathered from various posts, especially from GammaRay on gwonline.net. All information is best estimate without official numbers from the development team.


Available Pets:

Black Bear …………………………. (slashing damage)
Black Widow Spider ………….. (piercing damage)
Fern/Dune Lizard ………………. (piercing damage)
Lynx (cat) …………………………. (slashing damage)
Melandru’s Stalker (cat) ….. (slashing damage)
Moa Bird ……………………………. (slashing damage)
Snow Wolf …………………………. (slashing damage)
Strider (bird)………………………. (piercing damage)
Warthog …………………………….. (blunt damage)
Wolf ……………………………………. (slashing damage)

You can name your pet with the following commands:

/namepet <pet name>
/petname <pet name>

Skill recharge penalty when pet dies has been reduced to 4 seconds.

-- :: LOCATIONS FOR TAMING :: --

PRE-SEARING:

Bear - Wizard's Folly* (no longer available - patched)
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Reagent Valley
Strider (Bird) - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Northernlands
Wolf - Ascalon Fields, Reagent Valley


POST-SEARING:

Bear - Lornar's Pass
Black Widow Spider - Underworld (after setting the reaper free at the monument near the tortured spirit village)
Dune Lizard - Amnoon Oasis
Fern Lizard – I believe this can be found outside Druids Overlook or Quarrell Falls
Lynx - Kryta Areas
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Old Ascalon**
Moa Bird - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Denravi Areas
Wolf - Shiverpeaks


** - There's only one on the map, to the far West, near Gate Guard
Hollis (entrance to the Breach).


-- :: BEASTMASTERY : : --

At 0 BeastMastery (BM), the pet does 35% damage, and at 12 BM it's doing 100% damage. Weapon masteries after 12 do have diminished power increases. 13 has 104%, 14 has 107%, and so on and so forth. It's really just not worth the trouble, the expense, and the drain on your HP to load up to 16 on weapon mastery attributes. BeastMastery seems to follow the pattern, so you should be good at 12 BM, unless you want to crank the most out of your pet heals and attack skills.


Attribute Level --------- Effect on Weapon / Pet Damage
0 --------- 35.60%
1 --------- 38.60%
2 --------- 42.00%
3 --------- 45.90%
4 --------- 50.00%
5 --------- 54.50%
6 --------- 59.50%
7 --------- 64.80%
8 --------- 70.70%
9 --------- 77.10%
10 -------- 84.10%
11 -------- 91.70%
12 -------- 100.00%
13 -------- 104.00%
14 -------- 107.00%
15 -------- 109.00%
16 -------- 110.00%

* TIP: If you use a major rune of beast mastery on a tamer's mask, you'll get +3 BM. Counter the HP loss with a superior vigor rune (or major if you won't miss the 10 HP). Boost your BM up to 9, so that you now have 12 (9+3) BM total. You've just saved yourself 49 attribute points over having brought your BM up to 12 without any modifiers. With the right runes and equipment, you can make yourself quite diverse.


-- :: PET ATTRIBUTES :: --

Hit Points and Armor Level increase per level gain same as a player. Pet Inherit names like: Hearty, Playful, Elder seem to be cosmetic and change based on the level of the pet. Tests are underway to verify this, but these names seem to have no effect on the pet attributes.

Armor Levels:

Level 1 Pet = AL 3
Level 2 Pet = AL 6
Level 3 Pet = AL 9
Level 4 Pet = AL 12
Level 5 Pet = AL 15
Level 6 Pet = AL 18
Level 7 Pet = AL 21
Level 8 Pet = AL 24
Level 9 Pet = AL 27
Level 10 Pet = AL 30
Level 11 Pet = AL 33
Level 12 Pet = AL 36
Level 13 Pet = AL 39
Level 14 Pet = AL 42
Level 15 Pet = AL 45
Level 16 Pet = AL 48
Level 17 Pet = AL 51
Level 18 Pet = AL 54
Level 19 Pet = AL 57
Level 20 Pet = AL 60

Base Damage Output:

Level 1 Pet = 3-5
Level 2 Pet = 4-6
Level 3 Pet = 5-8
Level 5+ Pet = 6-10

* Note that pet damage is tied to your level of Beast Mastery.
The higher your attribute level the greater the pet.


Below are the results of current testing on pet attributes. All pets are level 20, and were tested with 0 to 12 BeastMastery. Although all pets have yet to be tested, it does appear that all pets except the Black Widow are almost exactly the same.

Remember that these tests were performed by humans so there is always a margin of error. Each pet was tested 30 times to get a fair number of attacks/damage and then averaged. Although each pet test may have generated slight variances (less than a second) in the DPS we can average that each pet attacks every 2 seconds. These averages can be applied across the board and provide some basic information.

SUMMARY

 Pet Hit Points have not been tested enough to state the results
 All Pets of the same experience level have the same Armor Level.
 All Pets have a 2 second attack rate
 All Pets have a 10% chance for critical hit with a 12 BeastMastery (average 34 damage/per critical, except Black Widow Spider which does 43)
 All Pets except Black Widow Spider (which seems to have a 17 ~ 29 range) appear to have a 15 ~ 28 damage range at level 20 with 12 BeastMastery
 The Black Widow Spider seems to be the best pet in the game.



Black Bear
.. : Average Attack Speed ............ 2.095 sec per attack
.. : Average Damage Per Second .. 10.07
.. : Armor Level ........................... 60
.. : ---------------------------------- BeastMastery -----------------------------
.. : --------------------------------- 0 ----------- 12 -----------------------------
.. : Damage Range ..................... 6 ~ 9 ........... 15 ~ 28
.. : Critical Hit (10% chance) ....... N / A ............ 34
.. : Average Damage Per Hit ........ 7.1 .............. 21.1

* Brutal Mauling appears to have no distinguishable influence on the pet's damage. Seems to just be cosmetic.


Dune Lizard
.. : Average Attack Speed ............ 2.17 sec per attack
.. : Average Damage Per Second .. 10.29
.. : Armor Level ........................... 60
.. : ---------------------------------- BeastMastery -----------------------------
.. : --------------------------------- 0 ----------- 12 -----------------------------
.. : Damage Range ..................... 6 ~ 9 ............ 15 ~ 28
.. : Critical Hit (10% chance) ....... N / A ............. 33 ~ 34
.. : Average Damage Per Hit ........ 7.35 .............. 22.35


Elder Black Widow
.. : Average Attack Speed ............ 2.067 sec per attack
.. : Average Damage Per Second .. 12.256
.. : Armor Level ........................... 60
.. : ---------------------------------- BeastMastery -----------------------------
.. : --------------------------------- 0 ----------- 12 -----------------------------
.. : Damage Range ..................... 6 ~ 10 ............ 17 ~ 27
.. : Critical Hit ........................... 12 ~ 13 (3% chance) ... 43 (10% chance)
.. : Average Damage Per Hit ........ 7.966 .............. 25.333

* Although no 15 or 28 damage hits were made, it may just be luck of the draw -- more tests may need to be run – Note that the Prima Guide states that it has a 17-29 damage range


Melandru's Stalker
.. : Average Attack Speed ............ 2.04 sec per attack
.. : Average Damage Per Second .. 10.69
.. : Armor Level ........................... 60
.. : ---------------------------------- BeastMastery -----------------------------
.. : --------------------------------- 0 ----------- 12 -----------------------------
.. : Damage Range ..................... 6 ~ 8 ............ 15 ~ 28
.. : Critical Hit (10% chance) ....... N / A ............. 34
.. : Average Damage Per Hit ........ 7.05 .............. 21.85


Moa Bird
.. : Average Attack Speed ............ 2.032 sec per attack
.. : Average Damage Per Second .. 10.695
.. : Armor Level ...........................60
.. : ---------------------------------- BeastMastery -----------------------------
.. : --------------------------------- 0 ----------- 12 -----------------------------
.. : Damage Range ..................... 5 ~ 9 ............ 15 ~ 24
.. : Critical Hit (10% chance) ....... N / A ............. 32 ~ 35
.. : Average Damage Per Hit ........ 7.166 .............. 21.733

* Unlike the static critical hits we saw on the other pets, the Moa seems to have a bit of a "critical range." Despite the fact that it appears to have a lower maximum damage, the hits in turn seem to be overall more consistent, indicating a tighter damage range and it still cranks out the same average damage and average DPS. The attack speed seems to stick to the 2 second/attack rate like the other pets, so we can dispell the myth of the Moa's rapid attack rate. The speed attack of the Moa Bird is simply cosmetic.



Future tests results, and the final results will be updated here. But based on the above tests it is unlikely that the other pets will vary from the above statistics.
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Old 21-06-2005, 05:01   #149
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I'm probably a little late on this, but if you still need a warthog to test- I'm sure my (level 20) pet Morris would be happy to oblige.

Just give me a whisper ingame if I can be of any help- I've been following this thread for a while, and I'm keen to find out the results! :happy34:
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Old 21-06-2005, 07:59   #150
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Great Work

Great work guys, I'm currently playing PvE my first Caharacter, a lvl 17 Ranger Monk with a lvl 17 Hearty Melandru's Stalker. I haven't yet changed the name of my pet and I did notice that the name changes or 'evolutions' occurred at around lvl 10 and 15 (Playful & Hearty respecively). I find it hard to believe that these 'evolutions' are affected by your play style as I have yet to hear of anybody that had any prefixes other than Playful, Hearty & Elder (except of course for the Dire Black Widows). I, apparently along with a lot of others on this forum was hoping to see more variation between pets (not one pet better than another neccesarily, but possibly having strengths and weaknesses in different areas eg. spiders resist pierce attacks but have a weakness to blunt attacks etc.), I'd also like to see devs bringing in a wider range of pets, perhaps an amphibious pet which performs well in swamps etc (I really think it would be cool to see pets reacting to the different environments). Anyway keep up the good work, guys really interesting Topic, hope to see more results soon.
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